Why My Mom Owes $30,000 in Taxes

I hesitated when writing this post because, if I’m completely honest, I feel like this is my fault because of my student loans. I know my mom doesn’t blame me AT ALL but I feel so guilty over it since it’s really because of me. But I feel it’s important to get this out there in case anyone else has to go through the same thing so…let’s dive right in.

Parent PLUS Loan

When I was applying for college in 2003, my parents told me they would pay for it. I knew they would have to take out loans but I didn’t know much more beyond that – I knew pretty much nothing about finances at that point. So I agreed and felt very lucky that my parents were willing to pay for my education. My dad filled out all the applications and got a parent PLUS loan to pay for my undergraduate education. 

After I graduated (and went to grad school which I took my own loans out for), started working and started paying off my graduate student loans, I asked my dad about my undergrad loan. He told me not to worry about it – that they were paying it back. After a lot of needling from me, he told me that the loan was for about $70,000. I had no idea that we had take out such a big loan. I guess it makes sense – looking at the numbers now, it looks like an average cost of around $30,000 a year. Who knew, college is really expensive.

Anyway, I asked him to let me help out paying for the loan but he was adamant - this was their loan, they would pay it back. He wanted me to focus on paying off my graduate student loans as well as saving for the future. I dropped the subject.

Loan Forgiveness

My dad passed away last year in January from cancer. It was a horrible time, the worst  experience in my life. Afterwards, my mom was trying to dig through all the finances and of course, had to start paying the bills (he always took care of that). My mom is extremely smart and hard working and as much as I wanted to help her financially, she refused. Even when it came to my student loan.

In May, she called to ask about the student loan – I think to get it transferred out of my dad’s name and into her’s (or something like that) – and was told that because my dad passed away, she was eligible for loan forgiveness. She sent in the death certificate and we held our breaths. If she could be forgiven for this huge amount, it would life a huge burden from her. She already had to figure out how to pay two mortgages (they owned two houses), equity loans, car payments, bills and more – all without working full time. She was working as hard as she could as a real estate agent but there’s no guaranteed income there and especially after my dad passed away, she was in no shape to work. I wanted this for her so bad.

The call came and she was told the good news – the loan was forgiven. This meant she could immediately stop making the monthly payments as well as get reimbursed the amounts she paid from January – May. I was ecstatic. It seemed like the silver lining to a horrible situation, the only relief that could come when everything else was cloudy and gray.

The IRS Letter

Taxes was another thing my dad always took care of. My mom wobbled through it in 2011 but this year, she decided to get an accountant to do it. There were just too many deductions and different income to report that she just didn’t want to deal with it. The accountant finished her taxes and told her she owed about $7,000 to Federal and that the State would be refunding her about $4500. 

She knew this might happen because although she was trying to pay taxes on her real estate income, she knew she would still owe a bunch come tax time so she had the money saved for it. State refunding her money just made it easier to pay off Federal. She sent in her taxes.

But then the IRS sent her a letter telling her that she didn’t report  income. 

“What income?” She asked. “I only had real estate income and that was all reported.”

Further investigation and a lot of phone calls later showed that the IRS considers loan forgiveness as income. This means that my mom supposedly had $70,000 extra income in 2011 that she had not paid taxes on yet.

No one had mentioned this to her at the time when they were talking about loan forgiveness. And as you can expect, neither of us were in the right frame of mine to ask questions about taxes either. So a year later, finding out that she had to pay taxes on this was horrible news.

The accountant called. It turned out that she now owed about $30,000 to Federal.

When she told me, I felt crushed. Devastated. Unable to help in a situation that I felt was so clearly my fault. If I had just not let them take out that loan…if I had known more about finances then…if I had forced my dad to let me help pay it back. There’s no way my mom would let me help now since we both know that my dad would not have liked it.

I tried to find a way around this for her – we had her accountant look into a 982 that might help her not have to pay these taxes, but she wasn’t eligible. There was nothing we could do.

Payment Plan

My mom is an amazing person. She immediately came up with a plan to pay it off as well as found a silver lining to this new cloud. She told me that it was okay because at least she only had to pay about $25,000 on the loan instead of the entire $70,000. I tried to see it from this point of view but I still felt horrible. Of course, she assured me that it wasn’t my fault at all, that she was happy to pay this off but…it’s hard not to feel guilty.

Her plan is to send in part of the payment with the correction and then continue to pay it off. She’s in the process of refinancing her house and hopefully the process will be finished before she sends in this correction to the IRS. By refinancing, she’ll be able to save about $1500/month (her rate right now is really high). She’ll then put that $1500 every month to pay off these taxes as well as put any income she gets from real estate to it. It’s the best plan she has and I know she’ll work extremely hard to pay this off as soon as possible.

 Lesson Learned

Be careful of loan forgiveness. It’s great that they have that – and yes, paying 33% of the loan is still much better than paying 100% of it – but know your tax requirements. Chances are that loan they forgive will still require you to pay taxes on it and you better have that money set aside so you can pay it off if not immediately, then as fast as possible.

Be financially conscious from the very beginning. Be disciplined in how many student loans you take out and try to alleviate some of the financial burden by working through college or living frugally. In my situation, I’d love to tell myself to not let my parent’s take out the loan – to try to at least contribute throughout college.

When I have kids, I want to start saving up for their college immediately. I want them to be able to go to any school they want and not have to worry about money during college. My dream would be that my kids wouldn’t have to take out any student loans – and I wouldn’t either. 

I wish there was more I could do for my mom right now. Since she won’t take any financial support for me, I’m just trying to give her emotional support. I feel horrible every time she talks to me about this but I know she needs someone to talk to – and without my dad here, that job falls to me.

I just feel so helpless.

Category: Mistakes I Made
  • Michelle says:

    Wow I had no clue about loan forgiveness. It does sound like everything will work out for the better in the end though. Your mom sounds very smart with her finances.
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    April 12, 2012 at 10:33 am
    • YPFinances says:

      I had no idea about it either until it happened. It’s one of those things you don’t pay attention until you need to…and then you regret not knowing about it before. And thanks, she definitely is smart with finances. :)

      April 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm
  • The Happy Homeowner says:

    Yikes!! I’m so sorry you’re going through this, but I’m feeling optimistic that your mom will work right through it. She sounds like an amazing woman!
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    April 12, 2012 at 10:51 am
    • YPFinances says:

      Thanks! She really is amazing.

      April 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm
  • Kaye says:

    Wow. I had no idea. I’m going to share this with my readers on Saturday during my round up post because I think this is excellent information for everyone! Thanks for sharing this story. Your mom sounds like an amazing woman.
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    April 12, 2012 at 11:39 am
    • YPFinances says:

      Thanks for sharing! I’m glad to hear it’s new information for others also – I thought maybe I was the only one who didn’t know this.

      April 12, 2012 at 2:59 pm
  • GB @ In Budgets We Trust says:

    Wow! I’m really glad you shared this story… I had no idea that loan forgiveness could be seen as income, and I doubt that anyone who considers it for the first time knows that either.

    Your parents sound really caring and it’s no wonder that you’ve become a responsible adult (and a PF blogger) given the influence from both of them. I’m sure your mom finds a lot of real value having you as an emotional support. My parents don’t like to take money from me either, but I find that they’re really supportive of me giving them gift cards or dinners at their favorite pho and thai restaurants, or by helping my siblings with some of their college expenses.

    April 12, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    • YPFinances says:

      Thank you! What you said actually makes me feel a lot better – my mom won’t accept anything from me (even gift cards unless it’s her birthday/Christmas) but I did help out my sister financially when she needed it. She had borrowed $1000 from my mom for emergency surgery for her cat and then I paid my mom back – and my sister now owes me the money instead. I didn’t think of that indirectly helping my mom out (just my sister) so that actually does make me feel better that I could help out in some way.

      April 12, 2012 at 3:01 pm
      • GB @ In Budgets We Trust says:

        Absolutely! I remember when I was little, my mom said that she would pay for my college if I would help her pay for my sisters’ education. I think it is a big relief for them when they see their children “paying it forward” :)
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        April 12, 2012 at 5:58 pm
  • Michelle says:

    I am so sorry for the loss of your dad. My dad was diagnosed with colon cancer 2.5 years ago, and it’s one of the hardest things you can go through…if not, the hardest. To helplessly watch someone you love in such pain and not be able to help is torture.

    I too had not ever heard of this loan forgiveness. I would feel silly, but it looks like I’m not alone there.
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    April 12, 2012 at 12:50 pm
  • Emily @ evolvingPF says:

    I’m sure I would feel similarly helpless in your shoes, as I don’t think my parents would accept money from me in that situation. My parents also took out about $80,000 in a PLUS loan for my education. They paid it off quickly due to a windfall so I don’t have the what-should-I-do thoughts hanging over me anymore, as I hope you won’t after the taxes are paid.

    I guess it makes sense that you have to pay taxes on loan forgiveness, but it really sucks. They’re basically recognizing that you don’t have the means to pay the debt any more (or at least greatly reduced/should be on the hook) but are demanding a huge fraction in taxes immediately, which is a big shock. I’m so glad your mom was able to make arrangements to pay it over time. Essentially she’s substituted a large debt for a smaller one. I hope the refinance goes through as expected.

    I dunno, it’s just a hard situation. You know it’s because of you but there’s nothing that you’re allowed to do to help rectify it. It’s family though – you can pay this back (as I expect to as well) by supporting your mom in her old age, if she needs it financially (hopefully not) or just with love and care. She’s being an awesome parent for you and I’m sure you’ll continue to be an awesome daughter.
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    April 12, 2012 at 12:57 pm
    • YPFinances says:

      You’re right – I’m just going to try to at least be there emotionally and give her all of my love. It’s the very least I can do.

      April 12, 2012 at 3:02 pm
  • bogofdebt says:

    Your mom sounds awesome with her point of view and her plans.
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    April 12, 2012 at 1:02 pm
    • YPFinances says:

      Thanks – she really is :)

      April 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm
  • Tackling Our Debt says:

    Very sorry to hear your story!

    You and your Mom have been through so much. It is a shame that the tax man has his hand out no matter what the circumstances are.

    Up here in Canada we wouldn’t pay tax on that. We don’t pay tax on gifts, loans, lottery winnings, inheritances or anything like that. Just income through work sources or self-employment.

    I hope that things work out for you and your Mom.
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    April 12, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    • YPFinances says:

      Canada sounds pretty nice right about now!

      April 12, 2012 at 3:02 pm
  • From Shopping to Saving says:

    Holy moly I had no idea you had to pay taxes on loan forgiveness. It is good that the loan was forgiven and that she got a refund from the state, so don’t beat yourself up about. You could say all the “shoulda coulda wouldas” but at this point I think she has accepted it, and she is your mom after all. There is nothing that a mom wouldn’t do for their child, no matter how old their child is! Maybe help her out in other ways, and just be there for her :)

    I def want to start saving for my future children’s college education. It is so expensive these days. Luckily for me I went to a state school, and since my dad is a retired Navy vet, the VA bill covered half of my tuition. I also went to a junior college for a year to take GEs, so that was REALLY cheap – and VA covered half of that too.
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    April 12, 2012 at 1:29 pm
    • YPFinances says:

      I forgot to mention actually – because of something else, she actually doesn’t get the refund from the state and owes them as well. It’s pretty crappy.

      You’re lucky that you got your tuition at least partially covered! I wish I had thought of these kind of things before I went to college but I guess that’s why they say hindsight is always 20/20.

      April 12, 2012 at 3:03 pm
  • Daisy says:

    I had no idea loan forgiveness was even an option! That’s wonderful that it got forgiven, but it’s really too bad about the taxes. The government always has their hands in people’s pockets, I guess.
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    April 12, 2012 at 7:12 pm
  • WorkSaveLive says:

    It’s interesting that your mom won’t accept any money from you. Isn’t it strange how parents are so prideful when seeking advice and money from their kids?

    I definitely don’t think my mom would take money from me either unless they desperately needed it.

    At the end of the day you really shouldn’t feel bad. Your mom is right: she would have had to pay $70k and now she only has to pay $25k. Sure, it would have been nice for all of it to have gone away but something is certainly better than nothing.
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    April 13, 2012 at 4:24 am
  • Leigh says:

    Wow, that was a really scary story. Thank you for sharing. I can’t believe that loan forgiveness counted as taxable income :/

    When my mom was having some crazy life issues a few months back, one of my friends told me that my mom is a grown woman and she can work through the problems herself, so all I can do is listen and help when she asks me for something specific. It’s hard though to watch someone who you love so much to go through heartbreak.
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    April 14, 2012 at 11:05 pm
  • Carrie Smith says:

    So sorry to hear about your dad passing (my mom passed away from cancer too so I totally understand) and on top of it they didn’t disclose the loan forgiveness would be counted as income. That’s HORRIBLE! I’ve seen many of my clients be shocked and surprised when they had to pay taxes on a loan that was forgiven, especially with the Mortgage Loan Modification Debt Relief Act (it’s funny how congress leaves certain details out). It’s a good thing you’re sharing your story, I’m sure it will help others.

    Something you could try, is calling the IRS and telling them your dad passed away (if the loan was only in his name). It depends on the situation, but most of the time if the loan was in the deceased persons name, the heirs/spouses are not responsible. Your CPA may already know the situation though and tried this.
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  • ac210 says:

    Your mom is amazing. My mom, on the other hand, not so much. My mom also took out a PLUS loan for about $25k. I took out my own loans for about $30k. I had been paying the PLUS loan as I was in school (because I also had a full-time career) as well as paying for the balance of my tuition that scholarships, grants, and loans did not cover. When I was first accepted, my mom OFFERED to pay for my tuition (when I was unsure of how I was going to pay my tuition–loans had not even entered my mind). She never gave me a penny.

    My university was private and if it wasn’t for the mound of debt looming from it, I loved getting my degree from there. Unfortunately, once I graduated my business management degree was not enough for me to make a significant jump in my salary. I have fallen behind on her loan. And I feel terrible. Not to mention I haven’t even TAPPED my loan. I get it, I’m financially irresponsible. I’ve worked hard, studied hard, and am trying my best to keep my head afloat. Not good enough for my mom.

    I’m trying to come current with the payments but she wants it paid off. NOW. I get condoluted voicemails about me ruining her credit (which I get why she is upset) but she also makes 6 figures. I think the resentment combined with her being mean, impatient, and judgmental is pushing me towards not even paying it back. But I will. It may take another 10-15 years but I will.

    If I could do it over again, I would have gone to college when I was ready. When I knew what I wanted to do. And to guarantee my degree would payoff. Honestly, I would probably be making more money if I focused on my career with the energy I used to get through school.

    July 20, 2012 at 12:14 pm
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